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02 September 2015 @ 01:09 pm
Killing Characters  
So, I don't do too much of it. Does that make it too much of a change if I do? Don't want to piss off fans who trust me to not kill characters they like. In this story, I could kill either or both Rye and Woofie. Or just injure them badly enough that they might die.

What say the beta readers?
Zan Lynxzlynx on September 2nd, 2015 07:21 pm (UTC)
I hate it when characters die. But that doesn't mean that I hate the story or the author.

When it is done well it is a powerful, emotional event for the reader and the characters.

Since I've been rereading a lot of Lois Bujold recently, a few examples are Gregor's mother, Kareen. Sgt. Beatrice falling from the shuttle during the prisoner rescue. The death of Aral Vorkosigan. Almost forgot, the death of Sgt. Bothari.

Not a lot, and in those stories not a lot of Mile's immediate friends and family get killed off onscreen. But each one that does is a major event that affects the story and every character in it.

I think that if you do kill off a few characters once in a while it could be a good thing for the other characters. A lot of soul searching, growth into maturity, responsibility, blame of oneself and others. Vows of revenge leading to a grim descent into darkness and evil. Muahahaha.

Sorry, may have gotten carried away there. I don't really want you to descend into grim-dark. :-)
shana: pic#26226061shana on September 3rd, 2015 01:16 am (UTC)
I think, with the Wine of the Gods, you have a very powerful tool for minimizing the actual number of deaths. Injured, and would have died without Ebsa's highly illegal stash of the wine would be in keeping with the light hearted tone of your story.
hollybambolo on September 3rd, 2015 07:09 am (UTC)
Rye and Woofie are kind of hapless fools.

I don't feel particularly attached to either of them. They don't deserve killing, like the Trans World bunch did. But it wouldn't throw me out of the story, either.

So I suppose it comes down to what would it do to Paer to lose them? Or not? (Since they'd be her patients.) What would it do to Ebsa, since they're his responsibility? What would it do to them as a couple if Paer, following the rules, can't save them, and Ebsa, breaking the rules, can and does?
Michawl DolbearMichawl Dolbear on September 3rd, 2015 02:07 pm (UTC)
There is also the problem that you are writing out of order so you (mostly) can't kill off major characters and we Betas know this but naïve readers need not.

However, you showed Ebsa growing & changing when he has to kill people so the same when someone he feels responsible for is badly injured.

Provided you are ready for the change in tone I say do it.

Badly injured first.

I note that in Mages At Large you ended with Max out for at least a year so if you wished you could show Dobs having to cope plus the readjustment when he is fit again.

Little Egret in Walton-on-Thames
matapampamuphoff on September 3rd, 2015 03:38 pm (UTC)
I'll throw in an appropriate amount of angst and tears, and then bubble them for transport to a hospital. The guys need to get with the survival program and not sit around feeling bad.
hollybambolo on September 3rd, 2015 05:57 pm (UTC)
More the sort of thing that comes up two novels down the road, was what I was thinking. Longer character arcs than just this one.
Bretbretw on September 3rd, 2015 06:37 pm (UTC)
Kill away.